EP 10: LOVE, TRUST & FAITH (CHRISTMAS BONUS EPISODE *FT. ANDY WILLIAMSON)

When you focus on others, magical things can HAPPEN. That's what Christmas is all about!


In this episode Dr. Joel & Casey have a conversation with Andy Williamson. Andy is the CEO of Theory (a marketing firm) and the Pastor of Factory Church. He and Factory are giving over 100 Christmas Trees (and 100 Christmas Tree Starter Kits) to needy families in the Charlotte area.





In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk with Andy Williamson about: 

- How to grow your faith, by focusing on God's love

- How focussing on others brings incredible joy



Mentioned in this episode: 

Becoming Wilderness Book Pre-order

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt


EP 9: PERSONALITY TYPOLOGY

Identifying your own personality and the personalities of others is the road to greater compassion for all. It allows you to extend infinitely more grace and understanding to others and, more importantly, yourself. Personality tools like Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram are incredibly helpful in the journey of self-awareness and other centeredness. Understanding personalities shows us that "we can’t change the way other people see, but we can try to experience the world through their eyes and help them change what they do with what they see" says Ian Morgan Cron


Thich Nhat Hanh explains this well. He says, “When our hearts are small, our understanding and compassion are limited, and we suffer. We can’t accept or tolerate others and their shortcomings, and we demand that they change,” he says. “But when our hearts expand, these same things don’t make us suffer anymore. We have a lot of understanding and compassion and can embrace others. We accept others as they are, and then they have a chance to transform.”


If you want to see a real change in the people you work with, your family or your spouse, the first step starts with understanding them and yourself better. 


Think on what Thomas Merton said:


The beginning of love is the will to let those we love be perfectly themselves, the resolution not to twist them to fit our own image. If in loving them we do not love what they are, but only their potential likeness to ourselves, then we do not love them: we only love the reflection of ourselves we find in them.






In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How to Identify your co-worker's, family's and spouse's personality type

- Understanding Meyers-Briggs Personality Types

- How to live with more grace and compassion for others and yourself


Mentioned in this episode: 

Myers-Briggs Personality Quiz/16personalities.com

Becoming Wilderness Book Pre-order

Mariage Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt





EP 8: HEALTHY MARRIAGE CONFLICT

Conflict is inevitable in every relationship — especially, marriage relationships. Though most of us don't enjoy conflict,  Dr. Joel and Casey discuss how healthy conflict can build relationships.  Once again, this married duo, vulnerably bears all  in true Messy Life fashion. In this episode you will learn how healthy conflict can produce more marital trust and learn the 5 Apology Languages (five main ways people receive apologies). Trust is the foundation of every great marriage and team! Trust yields more love, more joy and more sex in a marriage.



When you really listen to your spouse’s perspective, take the time to understand them, (apologize if need be) and then humbly share your own perspective — a beautiful marriage is bound to develop.


What could be waiting on the other side of your messy marriage conversation?





In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How a healthy marriage conflict can yield more marital trust.

- Creating a space in your marriage for healthy feedback.

- Learn your spouse's apology language.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Becoming Wilderness Book Pre-order

Mariage Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Apology Language Quiz

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt




EP 7: INNER VOWS

"Vows begin when hope dies." said Leonardo da Vinci. Inner vows set the trajectory of your life. Some are good vows and have positive results, but, conversely, negative vows yield negative results.


Negative vows will keep you from experiencing all the joy God has for you in this life. If you have found yourself going through the same kind of scenarios over and over again... it may be time to "do your work" and investigate if you've might have unknowingly made a negative vow along the way.




In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How inner vows are established and the effect they can have on your life.

- How to identify negative vows.

- How to break negative inner vows.

- How to create positive inner vows


Mentioned in this episode: 

Pre-order Joel's New Book: Becoming Wilderness: Living from your Wild Heart, not your Weary Hurt

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt




EP 6: (BONUS EP) MESSY MARRIAGE CONVERSTATIONS

Dr. Joel and Casey discuss their highly caffeinated marital confrontation over — of all things — coffee! This married duo, vulnerably bears all in true Messy Life fashion. In this hilarious episode you will learn how healthy confrontation can produce more marital trust. Trust is the foundation of every great marriage and team! Trust yields more love, more joy and more sex in a marriage.


When you really listen to your spouse’s perspective, take the time to understand them, (apologize if need be) and then humbly share your own perspective — a beautiful marriage is bound to develop.


What could be waiting on the other side of your messy marriage conversation?






In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How a healthy confrontation can yield more marital trust.

- Learn your spouse's apology language.

- Get your partner's back: Public unity. Private confrontation.

- Listen to your spouse's perspective, be humble, be teachable.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Mariage Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Apology Language Quiz

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt

EP 5: BRAVING THE WILDERNESS (PART 3)

In this episode, Dr. Joel and Casey talk about how to heal, set healthy boundaries and reengage!


When you heal, set healthy boundaries and reengage, you emerge more authentic, more real and more powerful. Reengagement casts off all of the power that a person, organization or wound has over you! Reengaging is refusing to remain a character in your own story. Reengaging is the choice to become the author of your own story and write your own daring ending.


How will your story to end? That’s entirely up to you. 


Will you reengage?



In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How to heal.

- Avoid the rebound.

- Setting healthy boundaries.

- The power of reengaging.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown 

Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt

EP 4: BRAVING THE WILDERNESS (PART 2)

Braving the wilderness is a journey to discovering your true belonging and authentic self. 


In this episode, Casey and Dr. Joel share the lessons they are learning in the wilderness. How to navigate the shame-storm that gathers for every wilderness sojourner. Answering these howling questions: Why didn't I fight for myself sooner? What's wrong with me? How did I allow myself to get into that situation in the first place?


The desire to "belong" is primal. We intrinsically desire to belong to something greater than ourselves and to find "true belonging." We all look for our group, our people, our tribe. Because the desire to belong is so primal, it's easy to give up one's authenticity, freedom and power - and not even recognize it - to fit in with the group.


But . . . true belonging only happens, as Casey says in this episode, "When we present out true authentic selves to the world." Finding your squad is important, but it should never come at the expense of your authenticity, freedom and power.


Are you ready for a journey through the wilderness? 


Brene Brown is the author of Braving The Wilderness: a quintessential resource for all blazing a trail back toward their authentic self. 



In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- How to navigate the shame-storm.

- Identifying the "why" of your shame.

- Identifying your wilderness friends.

-Changing things: Confronting your community.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown 

Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Messy Life Podcast Instagram

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

Messy Life Tee Shirt



EP 3: BRAVING THE WILDERNESS

Braving the wilderness is a journey to discovering your true belonging and authentic self. 


"Belonging is the innate human desire to be part of something larger than us. Because this yearning it so primal, we often try to acquire it by fitting in and seeking approval, which is not only a hollow substitute of true belonging, but often barriers to it. Because true belonging only happens when we present our authentic and perfect selves to the world. Our sense of belonging can never be greater than our level of self acceptance." - Brene Brown


There was a time in Casey's life where she walked through a wilderness season journeying toward belonging to herself, not someone else or something else. Because it is in the wilderness that we are awakened to bloom into who God always purposed us to be. 


Are you ready for a journey through the wilderness? 


Brene Brown is the author of Braving The Wilderness: a quintessential resource for all blazing a trail back toward their authentic self. 



In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- Casey's journey of braving the wilderness.

- The difference between influence and control. 

- What braving the wilderness looks like. 

- How you can discover your true belonging and true self. 


Mentioned in this episode: 

Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown

Coaching sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page

EP 2: PRESS INTO THE PAIN, THEN POSSESS YOUR POWER


As we continue talking about pain, Joel shares his personal journey with Professor Pain. In his youth, he developed coping mechanisms to survive. But later in life,  the same coping skills that had saved his life began to steal it, his true self, and his story. 


It is our responsibility to chase the triggers of our pain and press into it so that we can discover our power. When you overcome your pain, you find a strength that comes from within yourself and no one can take that from you. It is in YOUR hands! 


In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- Dr. Joel's personal experience with pain. 

- Releasing coping mechanisms that were once beneficial, but are not longer necessary. 

- The difference between sharing your story and processing your pain. 

- How you give away your power when you let pain control you.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Coaching Sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Fathered by God by John Eldredge

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page


EP 1: PROFFESOR PAIN

Let's talk about PAIN! We could feel you tense-up as your eyes scanned the word - pain. Ouch, just reading the word hurts - let alone - when you actually have to experience it. We are with you!


"Pain is like a traveling professor. He knocks at the door of your life. Your job is to invite him in, welcome him in, and sit with him. And do not let him leave until he has taught you everything you need to learn." - Glennon Doyle


Why is life so painful? Think about it. From the very first moment we enter the world, it is a messy, painful endeavor. But there is something on the inside of us that is already prepared for what is to come. At some point in life, we all experience pain. And when we do, we can choose to lean into it and discover our strength or avoid it with an "easy button." Stop running, numbing and avoiding Professor Pain. Let her inside and discover the strength, courage and resiliency that has always resided within.




In this episode, Dr. Joel + Casey talk about: 

- Casey's experience with pain and the moment that shifted her perspective of pain. 

- How you can learn to welcome Professor Pain into your home.  

- What are Easy Buttons and how to avoid them.

- How to discover the power that is inside you.


Mentioned in this episode: 

Super Soul Conversations: First The Pain, Then The Rising with Glennon Doyle

Love Warrior by Glennon Doyle

Coaching Sessions with Dr. Joel and Casey

Dr. Joel's Instagram

Casey's Instagram

Facebook Page